What can you see, in your pee?

What can you see, in your pee?

I’m vaguely familiar with the myth that your pee is essentially sterile. However, it turns out to be false. Dr. Linda Brubaker and colleagues examined the urine of 41 overactive bladder female patients and 24 control female patients. 48 of 65 of samples were negative, i.e., so-called sterile using standard urine culture procedures. However, using an expanded procedure, 80% of the samples were found to contain bacteria. I’m not a molecular biologist so I won’t try to explain the difference between the standard and expanded culture procedures. The interesting thing is that overactive bladder might be linked to changes in your microbiome. Again, we are learning more and more about the importance of our microbiome.

I’ve talked about microbiome before.

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Sources:

Urine is not sterile: use of enhanced urine culture techniques to detect resident bacterial flora in the adult female bladder.

J Clin Microbiol. 2014 Mar;52(3):871-6

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24371246

Study debunks common myth that urine is sterile

http://goo.gl/qgIH4e

Image source:

http://goo.gl/qu0DLw

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0 Comments

  1. Nikki C
    May 18, 2014

    Fascinating Chad Haney ! 

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  2. Chad Haney
    May 18, 2014

    Yep, science is fascinating. Thanks Nikki C 

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  3. Nikki C
    May 18, 2014

    I decided against telling you a story here about bladders, another day perhaps. You will laugh, alot! I may well blush too. 

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  4. Chad Haney
    May 18, 2014

    Save it for a hangout, Nikki C. We have fun hangouts with Yoon-Mi Kim, Gita Jaisinghani and Lacerant Plainer  

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  5. Gita Jaisinghani
    May 18, 2014

    Heh we do, we do. Although it’s mostly not bladder-talk, I don’t think!!

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  6. Chad Haney
    May 18, 2014

    Gita Jaisinghani we need to invite someone with an overactive bladder, then it might become a topic.

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  7. Gita Jaisinghani
    May 18, 2014

    wonders if that’s what Nikki C was talking about

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  8. Nikki C
    May 18, 2014

    Haahaa! I shall leave this story for another day & keep you all in suspense.  Overactivity only occurs once alcohol has been consumed in my case 🙂 

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  9. Cindy Brown
    May 18, 2014

    I’m a little unclear: there were two groups.  Were the percentages the same for both groups?

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  10. Lacerant Plainer
    May 18, 2014

    If beer is involved in a hangout, there could be some jokes 😛 Oh btw very interesting. I did read some interesting stuff on the microbiome of your surroundings. On a chemistry note, urine was first used to find Phosphorous. But it needed to be concentrated and dried.

    Was very stinky I believe.

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  11. emmy e
    May 18, 2014

    Cindy Brown there were 41 with over active bladders and 24 control, or alleged regular functioning bladders.  With the expanded procedure, 80% were found to have bacteria though, so that means that some of the regular functioning bladders had bacteria.  I’m wondering how many of each group had the bacteria and how many didn’t.  I don’t want to assume that all 41 OAB’s had the bacteria.  Chad Haney, we need more data! 

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  12. Chad Haney
    May 18, 2014

    Bacteria were found in 52 of the 65, so both groups. I’ll see if there was a breakdown between the groups.

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  13. emmy e
    May 18, 2014

    😀 Please.  Cus I’m thinking that at least one of the OAB’s didn’t have bacteria.  I’m guessing though.

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  14. Cindy Brown
    May 18, 2014

    I vaguely remember reading that urine generally IS sterile — till it hits the outer genitalia and the world at large on its exit.  

    ?

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  15. Chad Haney
    May 18, 2014

    Cindy Brown they used a transurethral catheter to get around that issue.

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  16. Peter Barrett
    May 19, 2014

    UTIs are common enough to suggest urine cannot be sterile.

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  17. Chad Haney
    May 19, 2014

    Peter Barrett UTIs aren’t usually as far as the bladder. It’s fair to assume that the bladder and urine within it, is clean. However this study now demonstrates that is not the case.

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  18. Peter Barrett
    May 19, 2014

    cystitis is the most common UTI Chad Haney

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  19. Peter Barrett
    May 19, 2014

    A lot of people have IC and no one knows why. Maybe it’s bacteriuria after all 😉

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  20. Yoon-Mi Kim
    May 19, 2014

    We should have Nikki C in our next hangout! She can do a guest spot on bladders where we all have to chip in with our own story 😛

    Reply
  21. Akinola Emmanuel
    May 19, 2014

    Any predominant bacterial groups in the cultures?

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  22. Chad Haney
    May 19, 2014

    Akinola Emmanuel 

    The most prevalent genera isolated were Lactobacillus (15%), followed by Corynebacterium (14%), Streptococcus (11.9%), Actinomyces (6.9%), and Staphylococcus (6.9%)

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  23. Akinola Emmanuel
    May 19, 2014

    I wonder how that would look in the urine sample of lactose intolerant people.

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  24. Chad Haney
    May 19, 2014

    Sounds like you need to fill out some IRB forms, Akinola Emmanuel 

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  25. Peter Barrett
    May 19, 2014

    No E. Coli Chad Haney ? really?

    Most Bacteriuria cases turn up Escherichia, don’t they?

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  26. Chad Haney
    May 19, 2014

    Only 3 of the 65 had E. Coli as far as I can tell.

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  27. David “not B” A
    May 19, 2014

    Given the trillions of critters we obliviously cohabit these carcasses with, it seems inconceivable that any of our systems or products are truly sterile. We are vast aggregations of dynamic equilibria.

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  28. Akinola Emmanuel
    May 19, 2014

    David Archer what about the fetus?

    Reply

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