Denialism

Denialism

I love that term. I’m also glad that Liza Gross is on G+. Nice article. It compliments my #Anti_anti_intellectualism  hashtag.

Liza Gross wrote an interesting piece on the sad state of anti-vaxxers.

Warning any anti-science or anti-vaxxer comments will be deleted and you’ll be blocked. I’m tired of arguing on the OP. We are receiving Tweets from Mars. You’d think we could get people past their aluminum foil hats.

Originally shared by Guy Kawasaki

(Sun03) Denial and vaccine myths.18% of Americans think vaccines cause autism

http://science.kqed.org/quest/2012/08/08/doubt-and-denialism-vaccine-myths-persist-in-the-face-of-science/

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  1. Buddhini Samarasinghe
    August 20, 2012

    oh my gawd. I just saw the comments. Kudos for keeping cool, I think that’s important. But wow, it’s truly scary how some of those people are A) allowed to raise kids and B) vote.

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  2. Chad Haney
    August 20, 2012

    CNN? Really, I don’t get it. Why would I spout anything from CNN, I think he meant CDC.

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  3. Buddhini Samarasinghe
    August 20, 2012

    Ya I think so. Anyone who defends vaccines is automatically in the pockets of Big Pharma right? You know what, I wish. I’d be so rich then, not a poor struggling post-doc 😛 Also, the ‘evidence’ that they supply say a lot. Anytime someone provides links from ageofautism.com or naturalnews my alarm bells go off, just like the way cretards who post links from the discoveryinstitute do. Ugh.

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  4. Buddhini Samarasinghe
    August 20, 2012

    At least with cretards I play the evangelical Pastafarian card and they leave me alone. I don’t know the equivalent for the anti-vaxxers. I also struggle to find the humor in it; anti-vaxxers can kill people, but creationists are relatively harmless, so it’s easier to just laugh at them.

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  5. Cheryl Ann MacDonald
    August 20, 2012

    Hi Chad Haney :)) I just logged in again to see this…. now I am sitting in my backyard laughing out loud like a crazy person. I will go get the tin foil now.

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  6. Wendy Cohoon
    August 20, 2012

    That is a poor choice for a vaccination mascot. If that image was for a jab and I was a kid, that bee would scare the heck out of me. ‘I don’t want to get stung!’

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  7. Chad Haney
    August 20, 2012

    Good evening Cheryl Ann MacDonald and goodnight Cheryl Buddhini Samarasinghe et al.

    I enjoyed a nice Geuze Cuvée René with my dinner and these fucktards got me pissed off and spoiled it.

    http://www.lindemans.be/start/geuze/en/

    Excuse me. I should not have let the trolls bait me. However, I keep thinking about what Kimberly Chapman said in her post about not taking the chance that some parent might believe these nutjobs and not vaccinate their kids. They have no clue as to the danger they cause society and their community. Just look at the Pertussis outbreak in Washington. So I’m off to bed.

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  8. Buddhini Samarasinghe
    August 20, 2012

    Aww sorry to hear they spoiled your evening Chad Haney. I can relate. Just keep fighting the good fight though, like Kimberly said, it’s too risky not to 🙂 

    Goodnight!

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  9. Chad Haney
    August 20, 2012

    Wendy Cohoon notice it says oral vaccine. I’m guessing the bee is to signify that the oral vaccine is better than the sting from a needle. Just guessing.

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  10. Cheryl Ann MacDonald
    August 20, 2012

    It is a good cause Chad & Buddhini & I am going to reshare it too!

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  11. Buddhini Samarasinghe
    August 20, 2012

    Peter Lindelauf I think I saw the post you mean, but I didn’t see your comments (or they’ve been deleted). What happened?

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  12. Chad Haney
    August 20, 2012

    Peter Lindelauf I think I know what post you are talking about. You should re-share it and add your deleted comments to it. I would also like to know what was “censored”.

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  13. Angie Creasy-Thompson
    August 20, 2012

    Peter Lindelauf Don’t push the anti-vaxxers at us.  Most homeschoolers do vaccinate and our kids are involved in a ton of stuff, so we don’t want anti-vaxxers around either.  

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  14. Wendy Cohoon
    August 20, 2012

    Kids in Canada are not permitted to go to school without keeping their vaccinations up to date unless they get a statement signed from their doctor. I don’t know if they are allowed to be excluded by religious reasons.

    I had to get a signed statement for my son to be excluded from being re-vaccinated for red measles, when they decided that some MMR vaccines that were given when my son was 1 year old were not effective. My middle son did get the effective vaccine because he had a mild case of red measles. Because of that he had febrile seizures, he spent days in one hospital, had attempts at a lumbar puncture and was then sent on to the big city hospital and placed in quarantine. This did not stop me from getting the rest of his vaccinations, nor did it scare me away from vaccination my youngest.

    Don’t they have the same requirements in the USA? Could it just be that people cannot afford all the doctor visits because of the lack of publicly funded health care, so people make up other excuses why they don’t vaccinate their kids? Home schooled kids still go play on playgrounds and look at toys in toy stores, spreading their germs around.

    We have vaccination options at our public schools that are done freely at school. Parents just sign a form and the vaccinations are just done on the scheduled day.

    As for the just 15% believing in evolution – surely that can’t be true?! Those stats have got to be from the bible belt.

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  15. Angie Creasy-Thompson
    August 20, 2012

    Wendy Cohoon In the USA, parents can refuse vaccinations although then they have paperwork required for some schools to still admit them.  Also, some doctors will not take patients who refuse vaccines for spurious reasons.

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  16. Kimberly Chapman
    August 20, 2012

    It varies by state, though.  Some have more stringent requirements than others.  Some let you opt out of some vaccines and not others, or some say exemptions don’t count if you pick and choose.  Some let you delay and others don’t.

    Not that I’ve researched the options very closely, since I’d rather spend my time learning the science. 🙂

    BTW Chad Haney I hope you like how I posted for you in Guy Kawasaki’s thread.  And I actually wonder if it affects his Klout score anymore since I gather Klout has adjusted its calculations anyway.  But there again, I’d rather spend my time on something other than how a faux aggregator does its math…yes I have a Klout account because I thought it sounded cool at first but then realized quickly how ponzi-ish it can be…

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  17. Chad Haney
    August 20, 2012

    Kimberly Chapman I was assuming that Guy Kawasaki was being facetious.

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  18. Kimberly Chapman
    August 20, 2012

    Yeah, but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to mock him about it.  Sheesh, Chad Haney, it’s like you don’t even know me anymore.  * sniffle *

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  19. Chad Haney
    August 20, 2012

    What are you talking about, Kaycee? I knew you were talking about knitting cock-socks even though I wasn’t in your HO. 

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  20. Anything that ruins the tasting of a good gueze (or almost anything from Lindemans for that matter) is serious. 😉

    Regarding anti-vaxers, in the end most of their “arguments” come from emotion, IMO, they are affraid for their children. I wonder if an appeal to emotion might help there: “vaccines are perfectly safe, there is tons of literature proving it, but if you still want to endanger your children by denying them the benefits of modern science that’s your right, just keep your disease-vulnerable kids away from mine”

    (Dirty trick, using a logical fallacy, but when that’s the kind of tactics they use logical reasoning is bound to fail)

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